Adult Male, Catholic Priest - UK
This is a fabulous site - congratulations in handling issues such as sexuality
in relation to the church with such sensitivity. I wish it had been there when I
was growing up.
I was raised in a strict Catholic background - sex was never talked about, but
we were told that certain things were 'mortal' sins and that if we did them we
would go to hell. At 11 years old I happily discovered masturbation - it was a
terrific experience and gave a huge amount of pleasure and sexual release. But I
couldn't go to confession in the local village since the priest knew everyone. So
I cycled 15 miles to go to confession to a priest who didn't know me.
Now, I am a Catholic priest myself, and from my experiences as a boy,
especially with priests shouting at me in the confessional that 'sex was for
married people', I can say that I take a much more understanding view. I see too
many teenage boys simply give up on the Catholic church. It is not a crisis of
faith, it is more a moral crisis. They don't know how to remain in a body that
says faith is important but masturbation is wrong.
I was touched by the stories here of teenagers who want to continue as
Christians but are not able to stop masturbating. To them all I would say this -
is it likely that God would implant such a wonderful and powerful force in you,
and then consign you to hell for using it? If food or listening to music gives us
pleasure - why not also sex (masturbation) which doesn't cause hurt to
another?
Male, 52, Church Pastor, White - USA (2 sons)
- What was the first sign that puberty had begun in your life?
- I honestly wasn't really aware of my body changes at the time (odd as that
sounds), although I remember getting pubic hair early in the 6th grade and some
hair under my arms late in that year.
- Have you ever had wet dreams - if so, how often?
- When I was in junior high, I had them every few days. I hated them since
they were so messy and I was sure mom would "discover" me. I learned (by trial
and error) that masturbation stopped them.
- Have you been embarrassed by having an erection at the wrong time?
- Not that I remember. I worried about that, especially mom waking me in the
morning since I always awoke with an erection. But I don't recall any incidents
(I'm sure I would remember if there were any!).
- Did you go through a stage where you thought you might be gay?
- Honestly, I didn't know what a gay was until I was in high school! I was
curious about guys -- especially their penises, but I didn't associate that
with homosexuality because I didn't know there was such a thing!
- Do you masturbate - if so, how often?
- In the 6th grade, I would masturbate sometimes in the bath tub but I guess
I could not ejaculate - I just enjoyed the process and I think a bit of orgasm.
My first ejaculation was the summer between 6th and 7th grade. It became a
daily event. Finding the opportunity was difficult in our small, busy house,
but somehow I did. By college, it was maybe twice a week. Now, it's only when,
for some reason, I can't share sex with my wife. It's maybe 1-2 times a
month.
- How old were you when you started to masturbate?
- Funny, it's like your first kiss - you never forget it, right down to every
detail! I was 12.
- Did you have trouble coming to terms with masturbation in your life?
- Yes. At first, I honestly didn't know what it was! The first time, I
thought I broke something (but that didn't keep me from doing it again the next
morning). I was probably 14-15 before I knew what it was and that it was
harmless. I was probably 18 before I knew everyone did it. I felt lots of guilt
about it, although no one told me it was wrong. I made sure I discussed all
this with my sons. I wish this website existed then, it would have been a BIG
help to me (and them, too!).
- When did your voice break?
- I don't know. It was seamless for me, I had no problems with that.
- Are you circumcised?
- Yes
- Are you happy with being circumcised/uncircumcised?
- Yes. In reality, it just doesn't matter, but it's the custom in the US. My
wife left the decision to me, but I had my sons circumcised at birth.
- Has your puberty progressed fast/average/slow?
- It was fast. I physically matured earlier than the other boys my age.
- What is your penis size?
- Flaccid, it varies so much that I really can't say. Erect, maybe 6 inches
now. It used to be a little bit bigger when I was younger.
- Other physical characteristics? (hair growth, physical build)
- I remember so clearly getting a bit of underarm hair at exactly the same
time as I could ejaculate. It seems that's often the case. I was shaving daily
in the 9th grade, but, in spite of the early start, I'm less hairy than the
average guy. Since I was ahead of my peers in such things, it was all a bit
embarrassing at the time.
- Are you a virgin?
- I was until my wedding night! I'm proud and very glad about that (yes, it
was very rare then, too). So was my wife.
- Do you regret being/not being a virgin?
- I highly recommend it - not only because it makes for self-control (and one
GREAT honeymoon!) but because we learned together and know each other is 100%
faithful. And I can talk to my boys as one who was faithful and
controlled.
- Are you a Christian?
- Yes, Lutheran
- Have you had any official recognition of becoming a man (rite of
passage)?
- No. Sadly, it was all very secretive. I never even discussed any of it with
my older brother. Certainly, my Dad never said a thing. It was all a great
secret. I was confused and embarrassed. Sad.
- Your biggest hassle during puberty?
- Because I matured earlier than most, I was kind of embarrassed (it's always
awkward to be different at that age)
- Other comments or advice to other guys?
- My youngest boy, now 16, told me about this website. It's GREAT! I so wish
there had been a positive, moral, real site like this a few years ago. A friend
at church mentioned the James Dobson book, that I understand is excellent (but
also came too late for me - either as a boy or as a father of boys). I just
agree with the advice on this site. Okay, even though I'm very close to my
sons, it was HARD to address this. I kept looking for "teachable moments" but
not seeing them (or maybe not taking them). I finally just had to do what I so
much didn't want to do - I had "THE TALK", but it went okay. A lot of honesty,
a bit of humor - both go a long way. I shared my thoughts and tried to let them
talk (hey, awkward for them too). I let them know that mom knows. We discussed
some things and I put some K-Y jelly in the boys' bathroom. I was uncomfortable
- and I confessed that, but it really went okay, and it opened a door. The fact
that my son felt open to tell me about this site makes me feel good. My only
regret - I waited too long. It really needs to be done in small doses starting
much younger, not one big "THE TALK". My first son was 13, I think, the second
12 at the time.
Male, 43, White - USA (2 Sons + 3 daughters)
I first want to commend you on a fabulous site. How needed this
is.
I became a Christian as a older teen (17), struggled with homosexual feeling
and experimentation from the time I had an early homosexual experience at five
until late into my teen years. It is still a struggle but I can also say I've
been happily married for over 25 years, I've been completely faithful to my wife
by the grace of God and we enjoy a sex life that gets better and better. I've
also raised four girls and two boys who enjoy completely normal, although
challenging at times sex lives (challenging because they shouldn't be sexually
active with another person outside of marriage). I guess we are all broken. We
all struggle. We all just like to hide it. And God is there to walk us
through.
When I became a believer, I obviously stopped engaging in sexual activity with
other men but the struggle then shifted to masturbation and the condemnation
heaped upon this activity by the Christian group I was a part of for many years
was almost unbearable. So much time and energy was wasted in guilt and fighting
with my own body. This kind of Biblically honest teaching would have liberated me
from years of tears and needless struggle.
After much Bible study, I have arrived at the same conclusions regarding
masturbation and feel your web site is a fine guide for teens and all the
struggles they face with their sexuality. I showed it to my 12-year-old son, who
has entered puberty. He wasn't interested tonight but I'm hoping he comes back
and spends some time here.
Male, 44, White - Australia (2 sons)
I was born into a Christian family of six kids. One of the traps that many
fathers involved in church life fall into is that they tend to ignore their
families' needs for those of other church family members.
This was very true of my father, apart from the fact he ate his meals in
another room to watch the six o'clock news, and so call "wind down", he would
often avoid some of the tricky questions and made you feel inadequate for asking
them, so much so you would not even attempt to ask.
At the age of eleven me and a friend stood below our second story window and
innocently exposed ourselves to my sisters and their friends. They were opening
and shutting the curtains so we thought we would surprise them, but to our
surprise the next opening was my mother's horrified face. A lecture followed and
I was told it was wrong to play and experiment with your private parts. This
stuck with me for many years to follow.
I was a late developer and totally innocent of my body and what it was about
to go through, I had no idea of how conception took place, in fact I was never
allowed to attend classes where this was likely to be discussed. At my all-boys
school, kids talked about "wankers". I was one of them - "you're a wanker". I
really had no idea what they were on about. It was around this time (15yo) I
noticed in the school showers that the other boys were well into their puberty
years and some well established and well endowed. I became afraid to even go into
the showers with them for fear of being called a "wanker". Then one day when I
was 16 a friend mustered up the courage to say he noticed I wasn't developing. He
also told me that a "wanker" was one who masturbates and it was OK to do so. He
added that it would help my slow development if I began masturbating. He showed
me how to masturbate using his finger for a penis and told me what to expect. His
advice as far as masturbating was spot on except I wasn't yet ejaculating. I now
know that it was total coincidence that I soon began to develop sexually, for
"wanking" does not bring on puberty, it is a gland in your brain that triggers
this.
I enjoyed masturbating so much that it became a daily ritual, then an
obsession and then a desire to see others doing it. It became dangerous, and as
explained in this site an obsession can become a real problem if it is not
addressed well. I began to see myself falling away from God's covering - began
feeling that this is wrong - but I love it so much I can't give it up. I would go
to local parks with two mates from school, borrow a porno mag and hide behind the
nearest tree. I was then introduced to the idea I was gay, why, because I always
wanted to see what the other boys had under their belt. Were they any better than
me? This too became an obsession. I began to feel exactly how my dad made me feel
- inadequate. What soon became apparent was that suddenly everything I was
sheltered from had hit me like a ton of bricks. As my hormones grew, my desire
for sex grew, but as I was too afraid to get close to anyone, this too festered
within me to a point I became a closet lover (for want of a better word).
Then came along Dr Dobson's book called something like "Coping with
Adolescence". I was now 23 - a bit late - but I was in myself a late developer
and needed to get back to basics. It took many years to come to a point of self
forgiveness, to forgive my parents from sheltering me and to gain back some self
respect. If only the www was around then and if only what is available for kids
today was around then, things may have been different. But reality is, they
weren't around. I got over my obsessions, and now enjoy a healthy sex life which
does include masturbation from time to time.
If I could give advice to parents and boys, it would be on the lines of "do
not be afraid to ask, be asked, or share your testimonies". But always remember
someone elses testimony may be similar to yours but it isn't yours. Be aware of
who you are and what God has intended for you. There are so many arguments for
and against matters of sexuality. Times may be tough but keep focus on what God
has given you and what is in your hand (no pun intended). If you're in a place of
obsession, realize you can get over it - in fact, get over it - deal with it and
move forward. Obsessions are only set backs and what you make of them.
Male, 44, USA (1 son)
My problems started when I was 9 years old. I saw a boy, about my age, being
washed off with a garden hose by his dad who was upset with him for playing in
the mud. I remember staring at the boy's body, while at the same time feeling
guilt and shame for having the impulse. It was the first time I recall thinking
there was something wrong with me. It wasn't the last.
Around the same age I became obsessed with my own body, spending long sessions
naked in front of the bathroom mirror examining every inch of myself. This was
done in secrecy of course, because I was sure I was doing something wrong.
Then I remember a few times meeting under a vacant building with another boy
and touching body parts. I felt bad and guilty about it all. Again, I felt like
something was wrong, but the feeling wasn't enough to make me stop.
When I was 10 years old, my older brother told me that one of his friends
wanted to hang out with me. I remember thinking it was cool because my older
brother typically didn't want much to do with me, much less with his friends. So
I willingly went along. The boy led me to a wooded hillside where he zipped down
his pants, pulled out his penis, and encouraged me to touch it. Although I never
did, I remember feeling very nervous, upset, and somehow guilty. I was sure I did
something wrong. The feelings of guilt over that stayed with me for a long
time.
I began masturbating when I was about 11 years old. The first time was while
washing in the shower. I've continued to masturbate ever since, sometimes a lot,
sometimes a little. I've done it for many reasons including physical relief,
boredom, habit, curiosity, desperation, or excitement. In my early years, I
typically felt guilt or shame after I masturbated. No adult ever admitted to me
they did it, and if it was brought up in conversation, it was always in a
negative way. It was considered a joke, the message being that anyone who did it
was some kind of freak.
When I was about 12 years old, I hung around with three other boys in my
neighborhood who masturbated a lot together. I participated some, but again, felt
guilty about it. The thing that bothered me the most was that I got aroused by
being around them when they did it. I never stopped to think that the same thing
was happening to them.
When I entered junior high school (age 12), I was worried sick about Physical
Education (PE) class because I feared I would get an erection when it came time
to undress in front of the other boys. Sure enough, I did. But luckily at that
age I didn't have to shower after PE and could get away with staying in my
underwear. So, even though I got erections, nobody seemed to notice. Nonetheless,
I was convinced I shouldn't be getting them, and that I wasn't normal.
Then came high school where showering after PE was the norm. I worried about
it every day. When it came time to shower, I would race to get my underwear off,
get in the shower, get out of the shower, and get my underwear back on before an
erection began. Whether or not I got an erection seemed to be random, but I was
always nervous and had a consistent desire to look at the other guys. This really
bugged me.
My penis was out of control while I was in high school. Erections came and
went all day long it seemed. And the feeling that there was something wrong with
me began torturing my mind. Although I didn't have a close relationship with my
father, I decided to go to him about my concerns. It turned out to be a disaster.
He was in the medical profession and immediately assumed that he was looking for
some physical problem (I'm guessing warts or something, I don't know). He had me
drop my pants. He took a quick look at my privates and it was over. He told me
everything was okay, and not to worry. End of story. He had no clue! He didn't
know how desperate I was, or how difficult it was for me to even approach him,
and that I had the weight of the world on my mind concerning my sexuality. I
never went back to him again, and left convinced there was definitely something
wrong with me.
I didn't date all through high school. I didn't play sports. I hadn't
developed very much in terms of body hair and upper body muscle. I was intensely
self consciousness and had little confidence. It was a joke when I had to play
sports in PE. When the teacher lined us up to be picked for teams, I was
typically one of the last to be picked. All that made me feel abnormal.
By the time I was about 21 years old I recognized that I was getting crushes
on other males. It happened periodically. I've never approached any male about
sex, and none has ever approached me, but every so often I would get preoccupied
with thoughts about a particular guy. This really bothered me. Looking back, many
of the male "friendships" I pursued were motivated by these crushes. For that
reason those friendships were strained. I am happy to say that I have made some
male friends that I don't have secret attractions to, and that those friendships
have been lasting and valuable. The others ended, usually in an awkward
manner.
By the time I was in my 30's I was convinced I was homosexual. Period. No
choice in the matter. And that thought made me so depressed that at times I
considered suicide, wondering why I should go on if I was always going to be that
way. I didn't want to be a gay guy.
Although I lived my life in turmoil, I don't think the people around had a
clue about it. I acted normal in just about every way, and I even felt very
normal in every way, except in my sexuality. (I should note here, that I haven't
been only attracted to males all my life. I've always had what would be probably
considered a normal attraction to females, but that was something I didn't dwell
on. And I did date now and then after before and after high school. But I
wouldn't call any of my relationships with girls or women positive ones. They
usually started because of peer pressure, or desperation on my part. They always
ended badly.) Even though there was only one aspect of my life that really
bothered me, it affected all of my life. I couldn't separate it from the rest. I
couldn't feel okay about myself.
Things started to change for me in my mid 30's when I slowly began to believe
in God. I was exposed to Christian ideas in little bits over the years, mainly
through radio ministries. As time went on, however, I realized that what
Christians said just made sense to me. It gave me hope. It was the only thing
that began to make me feel okay about myself. I started to accept the notion that
we are all weird (i.e. sinners), and not supposed to be perfect. That allowed me
to not take it personally that my body did things I didn't want it to. I came to
realize that it wasn't what my body did involuntarily that mattered, it was what
I chose to do about it that mattered. That took a huge weight off my
shoulders.
A major reason I was open to Christianity was due to one man. He was my boss
for a time, and unlike any man I'd met up to that point (my mid 20's). He was
fun, very capable, a great leader, very giving, and most important, willing to
tell people what he thought and not a hypocrite. He freely told people he was a
Christian. At the time I was living with a girlfriend, and when he found out, he
looked at me square in the eyes and told me that it wasn't good to do that. That
had a huge effect on me. He was the only man that I respected and he told me
something that went against the grain of the common belief of my peers (who
thought it was perfectly normal to live with my girlfriend), but what he said
seemed right in my heart. He was the first man to give me the feeling that it is
possible to be a man that I could respect. He gave me strength to follow my
heart. Later I found out that he modeled his life after Jesus.
So I sought help through God's word. And it worked! Some of the best help I
received was through ministries on the radio and internet. The radio show Focus
on the Family, was, and still is, the most valuable resource I have found on the
radio. There were many internet sites that were helpful (although
boysunderattack.com was one of the best). The only negative thing about seeking
help on the internet was the need to avoid non-Christian web sites that promoted
gay activism and porn (lots of that on the Internet for sure). I wish I could
have learned sooner just how common it was for other guys to have the thoughts
and impulses I had (and have). I might have avoided so much anguish.
So what now? Well, I still get aroused when I don't want to (or "shouldn't").
It's still bothersome to deal with, mentally and physically. I still get
erections about any time I take my clothes off and there's someone else around
(and by the way, I even still have wet dreams every now and then -- and yes,
sometimes the dreams have guys in them). I deal with the erections the same way
I've always dealt with them (i.e. race to get out of the situation). I'm married
now, and about the only time I don't have to panic is when I get an erection in
front of my wife. I have an 11 year old stepson, and the most worrisome time is
when it happens around him. Recently I sat down with him and told him that it
happens to me, and that I can't help it. My wife was there for support. Having
that conversation made things better, though mentally it is still a drain. I
recently read a story wherein a Christian man pointed out how important it was
for a dad not to hide his body from his son(s). That's something I just can't do,
so I just try to fill things in through words. I'm hoping that my situation will
teach him that nobody is perfect, and if he has something that confuses him about
his body, he should find out what to do about it through God's word (e.g. through
my wife, myself, our pastor, and later, directly through the bible).
It was amazing how fast I found myself living a life I could be proud of
(productive, fulfilling, meaningful), once I gave up trying to control things
that were out of my control, and began trusting and following God's word. For the
longest time I was convinced there was no way I could make a suitable husband or
father or friend because there was something seriously wrong with me. I was
wrong.
My wife's first husband died when their boy was very young. I've been her
husband (and the boy's stepfather) for almost five years now. We have a good
marriage, and are a tight family. The boy thinks I'm doing a good job as his dad.
In fact, he recently spontaneously stopped what he was doing, looked me in the
eyes, and told me that I was the best dad in the whole world. He's told me
numerous times that he and his mom prayed every night that God would send him a
new dad some day. He tells me that he is glad I was the one.
So there you have it. For most of my life I thought I was homosexual, without
a choice in the matter. Then I quit letting my sexual impulses run my life and
started letting God run my life. He led me to a meaningful, fulfilling, life with
a wife and son and their families to love. I was nobody special until I found
God. So if such a thing can happen to me, it can happen to someone else too.
Male, 53, Church Deacon, White - USA (2 sons)
- Have you ever had wet dreams - if so, how often?
- Yes, but they stopped completely when I started masturbating. They were
always about sex, and when I look back they were fun. I just was not quite
ready for them. Dads need to talk to their sons about this aspect of life. Wet
dreams are natural, and something that young men have absolutely no control
over - they are not sinful or God would not have made our bodies like he
did.
- Have you been embarrassed by having an erection at the wrong time?
- I have always viewed erections as "fun", and in most situations when guys
are junior high and high school age there is going to be somebody around that
has an erection - face it all guys are horny most of the time. I do remember
once in 8th grade that there seemed to be an epidemic of erections in the
shower one day. One guy popped up and then five or six others popped up,
including me. We all laughed. It would have been a lot more embarrassing if it
had just been one guy. Good coaches can help with this situation by letting
everybody know that this is just part of the "guy" body and it can and does
happen to everybody. I heard one time that "erections are contagious" and I
could not agree more. The embarrassment comes from the fear of being "gay".
Having an erection is not being "gay" it is about being a horny guy.
Unfortunately the way this is dealt with in schools now is just to not require
that guys shower. Recently, I was traveling on business and I was staying at a
very nice hotel in the South. There were three guys (me and a couple of other
guys - all my age or so and like professionals) in the steam room and one of
the guys was laying on one of the benches and when the steam shut off for a
couple of minutes we all noticed that this guy's penis was standing straight
up. His friend jokingly said to him "I guess you are missing your wife".
Everybody laughed. I say this just to remind younger guys that this is just
part of being a guy, not really anything to be ashamed of.
- Did you go through a stage where you thought you might be gay?
- This is a very interesting question. No, I did not ever think I was "gay."
I do remember I was always curious about how big the other guys "dick" was, but
that was not because I wanted to have sex with him - I was just curious. The
guy with a three inch "dick" is worried that he is too short, and the guy with
a ten inch "dick" is worried that he is too long. I think that dads play a very
big part in this security role. Dads that are shy around their sons (never let
them see them naked) are forcing their sons to look elsewhere for reassurance.
Most guys are going to look more or less like their dads when they get older
and this includes the penis and testicle area. If a guy wants to see what he is
going to look like down there when he is twenty he can look at his dad. If the
dad is always dressed or behind closed doors then there is nothing to compare
to except other guys. When I was big enough to stand up, it was my dad's job to
let me shower with him. I look back on this and see how healthy it was. As my
two sons got bigger it was my job to shower with them. I can remember all three
of us in the shower together on many occasions. Dads need to take an active
role in teaching their sons what is healthy and good and to help them stay away
from what is sinful and bad. I was taught that the Bible is completely true,
and the Bible is very clear that homosexual activity is wrong, a sin, and it
was just not part of my life. I have always had a healthy feeling about my own
body, and I think this is very important about one feeling "gay" or not. The
Bible is completely right - there is no such thing as a "gay" person. There are
people that live in sin and call it "gay." God does not make "gay" people,
people choose a lifestyle that is against God's teachings. Let me make a
comment about God, Christians, and "gay." The Bible teaches against
homosexuality and it is a sin, but people that forget that we are to love the
sinner and hate the sin are sinners also. "Gay" bashing is wrong, and people
that go around with posters that say "God Hates Fags" do not understand the
Jesus of the Bible.
- Do you masturbate - if so, how often?
- Yes, I masturbate two - three times per week. I am married and I have sex
two - three times per week also.
- How old were you when you started to masturbate?
- I was twelve when I started masturbating. My best friend, A-Friend, had
spent Friday night at his cousin's house and he came over and spent Saturday
night at my house. A-Friend and I were best friends from about age six to
nineteen. We grew up together, a lot like brothers. He had the most exciting
news for me. His cousin had taught him to masturbate, and being a good friend
he shared the pleasure with me. I look back on this and see it as one of the
most natural things in life - best friends do things together. Our masturbating
together was never sexual toward each other - it was just fun. Let me make
something perfectly clear at this point. We did these things together, we did
not masturbate each other, or perform oral sex on each other. The gay society
would like for us all to think that masturbating each other and performing oral
sex on each other is just a natural part of life. The Bible is very clear about
these issues and it is clear they are wrong. I know that A-Friend and I were
very close friends and I know that our friendship helped both of us by
committing to each other our desire to be virgins on our wedding nights. We
were able to talk to each other about anything in the entire world (hey if you
"jack off" together there is not much left that cannot be said). Our talks
included which girls we thought were hot, which ones were sluts, and which ones
we would like to marry. We talked about how great sex must be, and how hard is
was to wait until after marriage. A-Friend and I knew what God's boundaries
were and not one time did it ever enter our minds to cross those boundaries
with each other.
- Did you have trouble coming to terms with masturbation in your life?
- Absolutely not. (1) I learned about masturbation from a fellow Christian
who was a good friend and somebody who I trusted so I never had the feeling
that I was the only one in the world that "played with myself". (2) At college
it was well understood that all guys "jack off". (3) Because I did "jack off"
with fellow Christians and friends I was always able to feel that there was
nothing wrong with masturbation. God made us sexual beings. He gave us His
rules about sex, and He is silent on the issue of masturbation. God is a loving
God that gave us a wonderful toy (our penis). A loving God would not give us
something wonderful to play with, be silent about playing with it, and then
condemn us for playing with it. Some men have decided that masturbating is
sinful and work to make guys feel guilty about doing what is totally natural.
Dads need to let there sons know that there is nothing wrong with masturbating,
it is fun, that every guy does it, and that God gave us the gift of
masturbation and that it should be viewed as a gift.
- Have you ever had a Christian church worker speak openly to you about
masturbation? While at college we had a revival and after the service one night
the preacher (married, had two kids, and about thirty-five) spoke with a group
after the service (anybody that wanted to stay) openly about masturbation as a
gift from God. He let us all know that he was there without his wife and that
he was going to go to the hotel room and "jack off" that night. There was a lot
of discussion in the dorm that evening, and I remember that there was not one
guy that denied "jacking off." There were several that said they felt guilty
when they masturbated. Some of the guys were silent (that included me and
R-Mate) Some of the guys thought the preacher was Satan sent, and some of the
guys were just happy for relief from the guilt that had been burdening them. I
wish that I had openly supported the preacher that night. Maybe this story is
helping me to come to terms with my silence on the issue those many years ago.
- A few years ago my older son was in a group of young men at church that
studied premarital sex, masturbation, and other guy topics including
pornography. Because I have definite feelings about these subjects and do not
want young men to feel guilty about masturbation I went to speak with the youth
pastor about what the guys were studying. I wanted to know the youth pastor's
view on masturbation. The youth pastor wanted to connect masturbation with
pornography. Well of course pornography is wrong and it should never be
connected with masturbation. Such a connection could create real issues with
men and their sex lives as married adults. Yes, let us all speak against
pornography, but do not connect it with masturbation. What I found out from the
youth pastor is that he had masturbated with friends as he grew up, but that in
many instances pornography had been connected with their masturbation.
Interestingly, he was not concerned with masturbating with friends - one of my
points. He was concerned about the affects that pornography can have on a guy.
Pornography is a demon that must be addressed with young men - they must simply
be taught of its dangers and instructed to stay away form it.
- Are you circumcised?
- Once again I find this question interesting. I am circumcised, my dad and
brother were circumcised, and my two sons are circumcised. I did not have any
input into this decision. All the guys that I knew growing up were circumcised
- it was just the normal thing. I know that the gay movement has a lot of
issues about circumcision. Jesus was a Jew and he was certainly circumcised. I
am glad that I am circumcised for that reason.
- Are you happy with being circumcised/uncircumcised?
- I am very happy about being circumcised. I am very glad that my parents
made this decision for me. I am very glad that my two sons are circumcised. I
can only say that anyone that is uncircumcised and wishes they were should
simply go have it done. I am sure it will hurt, but you will get over it. If
you are circumcised and wish you were not - get over it. I do know that my
brother did not have one of his sons circumcised, and my brother-in-law did not
have his son circumcised, both of these young men have had infection problems
that my sons have not had.
- Has your puberty progressed fast/average/slow?
- I guess my puberty was slow. I do not see that it makes a lot of difference
now.
- What is your penis size?
- About six and one-half inches when erect, and smaller when not. It is a lot
smaller when it is cold. Guys need to know that there penis size is not very
important. Unless you are going to be looking for a job as a porn star (just
kidding) the size of your dick does not matter to many people.
- Other physical characteristics? (hair growth, physical build)
- I felt like I was a little slow becoming a man, but everything is there
now.
- Are you a virgin?
- I was a virgin on my wedding night, and I am very glad that I followed
God's plan into the bedroom. I can say with almost total assurance that I would
not have been a virgin on my wedding night if I had not understood that God was
not merely making suggestions about premarital sex. Also, masturbation was part
of my overall plan for virginity prior to marriage.
- Do you regret being a virgin?
- I am so glad that I waited until after marriage to have sex for the first
time. My wife and I learned about sex together, and there has never been any
comparisons made about other lovers. Guys - being a virgin prior to marriage is
truly a gift from God, but it is a choice that only you can make for
yourself.
- Are you a Christian?
- I am a born again Christian. I became a Christian at the age of seven.
- Have you had any official recognition of becoming a man (rite of
passage)?
- No
- Your biggest hassle during puberty?
- Probably the surprise of wet dreams.
- Other comments or advice to other guys?
- There must be a way for guys to talk about this subject without being made
to feel different, weird, or guilty. So often, silence in this area is what
makes guys feel like: (1) they are the only ones in the world that "jack off";
(2) they are committing a sin by "jacking off"; (3) they are "gay" because they
"jack off"; (4) they are "gay" because they want to "jack off" with a friend
and/or; (5) they are weird or "gay" because they want to talk about "jacking
off" with a friend or their youth pastor, etc. Silence on the issue of
masturbation is not good. Guys not being able to talk to each other and adults
not being able to talk with young guys about this subject is what has left many
young, middle aged, and old men feeling guilty and sinful over something that
is a gift from God.
- Dads, you must speak with your sons about (1) sex before marriage and (2)
masturbation. Dads are the key to guys not feeling guilty about a gift from God
(masturbation), and even a way to for them to remain a virgin until their
wedding night. Recently, one of the guys that I work with, that also has
teenage sons (twins), asked me if I had spoken to my son about sex. I told him
that we had had a brief talk, and it was mostly about masturbation. I told the
other dad that I did not want my sons growing up feeling guilty about "jacking
off". The other dad completely agreed with me, but he had not said anything to
his sons yet. Dads - get over being shy concerning masturbation and talk with
your sons. Let them know that "jacking off" is part of being a male, and there
is nothing to be ashamed of. Let them know that premarital sex is not in God's
plan, and that pornography, (hard copy or internet) is something to stay away
from.
I include this story to show the diversity of peoples' experiences with
masturbation. While masturbation with another guy appeared to be a positive
experience for this man, I know that for me, when I was a teenager, that same
experience would have been my undoing because of the emotional problems I had! I
strongly suspect I would have fixated on the act as the answer to the intimacy I
craved at the time. Because western society is a "fatherless" society and nearly
all young males lack intimacy with other males, I cannot encourage young guys to
copy this story of shared masturbation.
Editor
Male, 31
Personally, I feel that the most important thing for boys to know, is that
EVERYONE starts puberty at different ages, but that in the end WE ALL end up
about the same. I didn't start puberty until I was about 15, and then it was VERY
slow. At 15 I had a few pubic hairs on my genital area, but penis/testicle
size-wise I could have passed for 11 or 12. Then in a matter of 3 years, I went
through all the changes. My voice broke at about 17, which is about the same age
I could first ejaculate. Other changes happened then also. I didn't need to shave
my face until I was 20 and didn't get hair on my chest until I was about 24. So,
I didn't stop going through puberty until I was 24 years old. Now in the areas
that matter I am above average.
It used to be so embarrassing in the showers at school. All the other boys had
pubes and I was as bald as a plucked chicken. The biggest thing I had was that my
penis was just like a pre-pubescent boy. It was so embarrassing. It's weird, but
I did have a sex-drive and started masturbating at age 11, but biologically
wasn't a proper man until I was 18 or so. My best friend could ejaculate when he
was 13 (I know coz I saw him do it... well that's what boys do). Perhaps that's
why I "hero worshiped" him at that time. There was me... a chubby 13 years old
looking like I was 11 years old and my friend, muscular, able to father
children.
Anyway... my point is that as an adult now, I see that I shouldn't have
worried so much. So what if at that time I only had 3 1/2" when most other boys
had 5". So what if I was bald as a baby and most other boys had hairs under their
arms and their genitals. So what if I couldn't cum till I was 17. The FACT is
that some of us develop sexually later than others.
One problem I feel is that many boys watch porn. They see men (and boys...
illegal material online), who are more developed than they are. What they fail to
realize is that the boys they see are unusually early developers. Boys who are
self-conscious about size etc, wouldn't film themselves. So it's only gonna be
the big-dicked ones they see. The problem may be that they may compare themselves
with them. I've learned that as an adult and now know that as a boy I wasn't a
"freak" at all.
I sent you this email just coz I hoped in some way I may contribute to the
cause... that is... letting boys know they are NORMAL.
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